Curse

avilia · Nov 25, 2008, 01:04 PM // 13:04

Hey all,

I'm using the following beastmaster build:
[Enraged Lunge][Draw Conditions][Great Dwarf Weapon][Feral Aggression][Otyugh's Cry][Call of Protection][Comfort Animal][Charm Animal]
Beast Mastery: 12+1+3
Expertise: 12+1
Protection Prayers: 3

Equipment:
Spear with 20/20, +5 energy and +30 health
Focus with +5 against elemental damage and +30 health
Full Radiant insignias, 2 Attunement runes, superior Beast Mastery, minor Expertise and Superior Vigor.

This gives a pet who does insane damage (with good knockdown %), can tank and who cannot be blocked. Annoying conditions like blind can quickly be removed from the pet with Draw Conditions. Auto-attacks from me can do a little damage if the target is hexed with Barbs/MoP or when I have Splinter Weapon on me, though that is not the focus here.

I'm looking for a way to increase the efficiency of this build. Do any of you have any ideas?

ajc2123 · Nov 25, 2008, 03:00 PM // 15:00

so all the damage is coming from the pet? I always wanted to do that.

Never hurts to stick D shot somewhere in there ^_^
Can you bring it into the Isle of the nameless and see the DPS form the damage master guy, then go to the armor ratings and see how much it does against 80AL? Im curious but I have no pet on my ranger atm.... It might be close to, if not better then a warrior but lacking Deep wound and other conditions if I'm not mistaken....which i am a lot.

wind fire and ice · Nov 25, 2008, 05:15 PM // 17:15

thats the best your getting with a pet,i wouldnt use them though..

Painbringer · Nov 25, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30

I need to try this on my Mesmer [Ether nightmare] [cry of pain] balance like you have it maybe drop [comfort animal] the monk skill and have a hero spec [revive animal]

avilia · Nov 25, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by ajc2123

so all the damage is coming from the pet? I always wanted to do that.

Never hurts to stick D shot somewhere in there ^_^
Can you bring it into the Isle of the nameless and see the DPS form the damage master guy, then go to the armor ratings and see how much it does against 80AL? Im curious but I have no pet on my ranger atm.... It might be close to, if not better then a warrior but lacking Deep wound and other conditions if I'm not mistaken....which i am a lot.

I tested it against the master of damage and i'm doing an average of 49dps, but my new (dire) pet is only level 16 and i have only rank 4 in Deldrimor, so the actual damage will be higher.

I'm actually thinking of dumping Draw Conditions, but I was thinking more of skills like [Scavenger Strike] (description is wrong) or ["You Are All Weaklings!"] as a replacement.

@Painbringer, that sounds like a bad idea to me. I barely have enough energy now. The last thing I need is to add two high-cost energy skills that would be much better suited for a caster profession.

Painbringer · Nov 25, 2008, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by avilia

@Painbringer, that sounds like a bad idea to me. I barely have enough energy now. The last thing I need is to add two high-cost energy skills that would be much better suited for a caster profession.

I would use it on my Mesmer not my Ranger

I have been thinking of leveling a pet so this would be a nice way to do it

have you tried getting close and dropping a [Ebon Battle Standard of Honor]

ALF71BE · Nov 25, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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Originally Posted by avilia

@Painbringer, that sounds like a bad idea to me. I barely have enough energy now. The last thing I need is to add two high-cost energy skills that would be much better suited for a caster profession.

What? Energy problems with 45+ energy and 13 Expertise? How's that possible?

Btw you don't need that much energy, the two that Enraged costs is back after it recharges.

avilia · Nov 25, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00

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Originally Posted by ALF71BE

What? Energy problems with 45+ energy and 13 Expertise? How's that possible?

Btw you don't need that much energy, the two that Enraged costs is back after it recharges.

Hmmm, you have a point. Keeping up Great Dwarf Weapon and Feral Aggression costs 17 energy every 20 seconds and Enraged Lunge is only 2 energy, so I should be able to hold out for quite awhile.

@Painbringer, yes that makes more sense. Still, with a build like that, are you going for a Dire Pet or a Hearty Pet. If you're going for Dire, you shouldn't do (much) damage yourself. You could even death-level most animals to dire (except White Moas, who don't turn hostile when you charm them). If it's Hearty you want, just dump all the pet skills except Charm Animal and set Beast Mastery to 0.

[Ebon Battle Standard of Honor] sounds like an interesting idea, especially when I have a Minion master on my team. I could even do a little damage myself this way

I'm gonna try that one.

TheOrangeFalcon · Nov 26, 2008, 01:44 AM // 01:44

I love [Enraged Lunge] pet builds.
My ranger uses an Exuro's Will for a weapon, but since you use [Great Dwarf Weapon] I might suggest a Mindclouder though for you or changing your 20/20 mod to a zealous and c-space with that. Along with that, i say go Survivors! Radiants are meh offering +8 energy which isn't that much when you can have +40 health instead while taking a Superior rune.

If you're having energy issues, you might want to be careful with the [Great Dwarf Weapon] and [Draw Conditions] spammage.

Painbringer · Nov 27, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

getting 121 dmg on a level 24 minitaur with only a level 7 raven WOW (dropping ward on him)

elk · Nov 28, 2008, 06:42 PM // 18:42

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Originally Posted by avilia

I'm actually thinking of dumping Draw Conditions, but I was thinking more of skills like [Scavenger Strike] (description is wrong) or ["You Are All Weaklings!"] as a replacement.

You indicated "or" for those two skills. I don't see any condition causing skills in the original build so you wouldn't get any en return on Scavenger's. I'm assuming you'd be adding something but was curious what else you had in mind (Weakings being 10 en and full cost could be deadly to the build)?

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Originally Posted by avilia

Hmmm, you have a point. Keeping up Great Dwarf Weapon and Feral Aggression costs 17 energy every 20 seconds and Enraged Lunge is only 2 energy, so I should be able to hold out for quite awhile.

Max en pool aside, spending 17 en over 20sec + 8 en for Enraged lunge over the 20 secs with no en return looks like it's gonna be expensive. +3 Regen is equal to 1en every sec therefore you're spending more than your making. You would cast Feral and GDW possibly twice (based on the 38 en it looks like you currently have) and then get into concerns unless you slow down your Enraged spam but that's what you're after right? (I'd imagine you'd try to stagger/space the Feral/ GDW so you're not spending the 17 en total at one time but still think it's gonna be expensive and tough to maintain).

I'd look back to the Scavenger's angle. If it comes down to a skill suggestion to drop so it can work with Scavenger's (based on your previous comment about getting rid of draw) than I'd probably get rid of call of protection. The pet will tank enough and incurs no DP (bot's will try to heal it as it goes so you don't need to try with Comfort). I also get the feeling you're running a Sabway idea (with Barbs/ MoP) so the minion wall will help the tanking too.

anywho - g/l!

elk

Aldric · Nov 28, 2008, 11:36 PM // 23:36

If you're using a spear try [barbed spear] with [scavenger strike].The 2A cost makes it virtually always charged, especially if your using it in conjunction with Spear of Fury. I tend to run those 2 with [asuran scan][rampage as one][spear of fury][blazing spear] alot of the time although this is much more a spear damage than pet damage build.

[never rampage alone][ferocious strike] instead of [rampage as one][scavenger strike] also works well i find especially in areas where stuff dies just that little bit too quick

Its slightly lower dps but it does allow you to have a higher energy BM/Spear skill (or [Great Dwarf Weapon] if you take out [spear of fury]) on the bar due to not spamming RaO every 13/14 seconds

I prefer [ferocious strike] over [enraged lunge] mainly since your getting adren and energy returned with good spammability and big damage it seems more synergised with Spear/pet builds.